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	<title>Comments on: Kerry: Stay in school or &#8216;get stuck in Iraq&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-4710</link>
		<author>BD</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>What's the difference between "a war" and "a just war"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between &#8220;a war&#8221; and &#8220;a just war&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bramanti</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-4711</link>
		<author>Matt Bramanti</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 18:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>From a Catholic perspective, there are a few specific elements:

&lt;blockquote&gt;* the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
* all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
* there must be serious prospects of success;
* the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a Catholic perspective, there are a few specific elements:</p>
<blockquote><p>* the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;<br />
* all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;<br />
* there must be serious prospects of success;<br />
* the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>By: ericpwjohnson</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-4746</link>
		<author>ericpwjohnson</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 08:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Well,

We are protecting, not invading, we are defending the innocent, not waging war upon those, we are helping those in troubleand in need, not causing them trouble or creating the needy

All in sacrifice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,</p>
<p>We are protecting, not invading, we are defending the innocent, not waging war upon those, we are helping those in troubleand in need, not causing them trouble or creating the needy</p>
<p>All in sacrifice.</p>
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		<title>By: SciGuy</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-4871</link>
		<author>SciGuy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-4871</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Random thoughts on a Thursday afternoon...&lt;/strong&gt;

I'm going to be away from the computer tonight and much of tomorrow, so I thought I'd leave you with a few parting thoughts. 1. Jeff Masters is reporting on a "Thingamabobbercane" that's about 900 miles west of Oregon. Jeff......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Random thoughts on a Thursday afternoon&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be away from the computer tonight and much of tomorrow, so I thought I&#8217;d leave you with a few parting thoughts. 1. Jeff Masters is reporting on a &#8220;Thingamabobbercane&#8221; that&#8217;s about 900 miles west of Oregon. Jeff&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-4872</link>
		<author>hunter</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nice site, Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice site, Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: BD</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-5387</link>
		<author>BD</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-5387</guid>
					<description>Matt, thanks. So, let's break it down.

* the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;

Iraq never inflicted any damage upon us, save for the handful of planes shot down over their country. Yes, they invaded Kuwait and attacked Iran. If this is the sole reason for invading them, then we need to hit Israel immediately, followed by Pakistan and Syria in that order. 

* all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;

Sanctions were proven to be the means of putting an end to their ability to do much of anything outside their own borders.  We didn't bother to let the UN inspectors do anything but the most cursory inspections.

* there must be serious prospects of success;

Er, NOPE.

* the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.

Gotta be another "negatory" on that one. The average Iraqi has few prospects for having reliable, continuous electricity; clean water; and for avoiding getting shot or blown up when going to work, the market or school (or witnessing this happening to someone else) on a regular basis.

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Here's one of my favorite quotes from a well-known subversive terrorist upon this very subject:

"What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?"
  -- Mahatma Gandhi, "Non-Violence in Peace and War"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, thanks. So, let&#8217;s break it down.</p>
<p>* the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;</p>
<p>Iraq never inflicted any damage upon us, save for the handful of planes shot down over their country. Yes, they invaded Kuwait and attacked Iran. If this is the sole reason for invading them, then we need to hit Israel immediately, followed by Pakistan and Syria in that order. </p>
<p>* all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;</p>
<p>Sanctions were proven to be the means of putting an end to their ability to do much of anything outside their own borders.  We didn&#8217;t bother to let the UN inspectors do anything but the most cursory inspections.</p>
<p>* there must be serious prospects of success;</p>
<p>Er, NOPE.</p>
<p>* the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modern means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.</p>
<p>Gotta be another &#8220;negatory&#8221; on that one. The average Iraqi has few prospects for having reliable, continuous electricity; clean water; and for avoiding getting shot or blown up when going to work, the market or school (or witnessing this happening to someone else) on a regular basis.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one of my favorite quotes from a well-known subversive terrorist upon this very subject:</p>
<p>&#8220;What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?&#8221;<br />
  &#8212; Mahatma Gandhi, &#8220;Non-Violence in Peace and War&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bruin</title>
		<link>http://www.mattsapundit.com/2006/10/31/kerry-stay-in-school-or-get-stuck-in-iraq/#comment-5483</link>
		<author>bruin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yeah, I guess it makes perfect sense that a Vietnam veteran would call members of the military "stupid".  He couldn't possibly have botched the joke or had his words come out wrong.  That's Bush's realm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I guess it makes perfect sense that a Vietnam veteran would call members of the military &#8220;stupid&#8221;.  He couldn&#8217;t possibly have botched the joke or had his words come out wrong.  That&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s realm.</p>
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